and he still lost, i think, what 22. couldn't sell it to them. you're going to have to -- he is going to have to sell the bill to his membership. of course, he will have democrats voting for it, too, so he won't have to have the whole republican caucus, but both sides will sell it to the membership. that is not in any way done yet. >> jenna: what about us, byron? we talk about the back and forth between the two parties. all of these decisions really affect the american people. we were just talking about this earlier in the program whether or not the dam has been done already. that the confidence in washington to operate, to function. what are your thoughts on that? has damage been done here? or is this politics as usual? >> if a bill gets done, relatively soon, before 11:59 when it has to be done, the damage will heal later on. you have to remember that president obama still has a nuclear weapon that he has not used in this fight. that is, an address to the nation in which he soberly lays out what the government can and cannot pay if the debt cei